Wednesday, 5 November 2025

Recession Fears Rise. Stocks, Reality Returning? Correction Or More?

Baltic Dry Index. 1958 +13          Brent Crude 64.50

Spot Gold 3973                US 2 Year Yield 3.58 -0.02

US Federal Debt. 38.154 trillion

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A pessimist is somebody who complains about the noise when opportunity knocks.

Oscar Wilde

A long overdue reassessment of AI valuations seems to be underway. See yesterday’s LIR technology section for part of the reason.

But what if Nvidia collapses from a five trillion dollar valuation back to a “mere” trillion dollar valuation? How many more cockroaches will come crawling out of US shadow banking?

Remember, remember the fifth of November, this year unfortunately also the night of the full "super" moon.

Looks like Warren Buffett was right all summer in selling out of stocks.

Japan’s Nikkei 225 tanks over 4% as Asia markets drop amid AI valuation concerns

Published Tue, Nov 4 2025 6:46 PM EST

Japan’s Nikkei 225 plunged below the 50,000 mark on Wednesday amid a wider decline in Asia markets as investors fled AI-related stocks.

The Nikkei lost 4.65%, while the Topix was down more than 3%. Shares in Japan’s SoftBank Group plunged more than 14% Wednesday amid a broader drop in Asian AI-linked companies, tracking declines in U.S. peers.

South Korea’s Kospi fell over 2%, with chip heavyweights Samsung Electronics and SK Hynix posting losses of over 7% and 8% respectively. The small-cap Kosdaq shed 5.39%.

The South Korean won weakened as much as 0.6% to 1,449.50 against the greenback, the lowest since April, data from LSEG showed.

Hong Kong’s Hang Seng index fell 1.36%, mainland China’s CSI 300 was down 0.9%.

Losses in Australia’s S&P/ASX 200 were relatively smaller at 0.77%.

CEOs of Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley on Tuesday cautioned investors to brace for a drawdown in markets over the next two years. “Finally, a sell-off hits the tape as the ‘everything rally’ takes a breather after comments from the CEOs, and Capital Group that markets were due a correction,” said Andrew Jackson, head of Japanese equity strategy, at Ortus Advisors.

Overnight in the U.S., the S&P 500 declined 1.17% to close at 6,771.55, while the Nasdaq Composite traded down 2.04% to finish at 23,348.64. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 251.44 points, or 0.53%, to 47,085.24.

Palantir shares shed about 8%, even after the software company beat Wall Street’s estimates for the third quarter and gave strong guidance, fueled by growth in its AI business.

AI stock gains have driven the S&P 500′s forward price-earnings ratio to above 23, near its highest level since 2000, per FactSet.

As those stocks have lifted the broader market to new highs in recent months, Anthony Saglimbene of Ameriprise said in an interview with CNBC that without a pullback, valuations were beginning to get “really stretched.”

Asia-Pacific markets: Nikkei 225, Kospi, Hang Seng Index, Nifty 50

Stocks close lower hit by AI valuation concerns, Nasdaq drops 2% after Palantir earnings

Updated Tue, Nov 4 2025 4:20 PM EST

Stocks fell on Tuesday, pressured by declines in artificial intelligence-related names like Palantir, as investors grew increasingly concerned about valuations in the bull market-leading shares.

The S&P 500 declined 1.17% to close at 6,771.55, while the Nasdaq Composite traded down 2.04% to finish at 23,348.64. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 251.44 points, or 0.53%, to 47,085.24.

Palantir shares shed about 8%, even after the software company beat Wall Street’s estimates for the third quarter and gave strong guidance, fueled by growth in its AI business. The stock, which has risen more than 150% this year, trades at more than 200 times forward earnings. That means investors in that name and the other AI stocks expect the companies to keep ratcheting up their profit and revenue forecasts by large magnitudes in order to justify investors continuing to buy the shares.

Oracle, which sports a forward P/E of more than 33 moved almost 4% lower, chipping away at its almost 50% gain this year. Chipmaker AMD, which has more than doubled this year, lost nearly 4%. Other AI stocks such as Nvidia and Amazon pulled back as well.

AI stock gains have driven the S&P 500′s forward price-earnings ratio to above 23, near its highest level since 2000, per FactSet. As those stocks have lifted the broader market to new heights in recent months, Anthony Saglimbene of Ameriprise said in an interview with CNBC that without a pullback, valuations are beginning to get “really stretched.”

“We haven’t really seen any major corrections or any real pressure on stocks since April,” the firm’s chief market strategist said. “Profits are good, but I think investors are starting to ask themselves, based on the pace of [capital expenditure] investments from some of these key Big Tech companies, ‘Are you going to see the profit growth over the next year to justify the levels of capex?’”

Comments from chief executives at Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley added to the loss of confidence among investors Tuesday. Overnight, Goldman’s David Solomon said it’s “likely there’ll be a 10 to 20% drawdown in equity markets sometime in the next 12 to 24 months.” Additionally, Morgan Stanley CEO Ted Pick said: “We should also welcome the possibility that there would be drawdowns, 10 to 15% drawdowns that are not driven by some sort of macro cliff effect.”

“Fundamentals are still good, but I would fully expect that you’re going to see a little bit of some periods of pullback,” Saglimbene said. “Whether that leads to a 5% or 10% or 15% correction by the end of the year, we’ll have to see.”

Wall Street is coming off a mixed session, as the S&P 500 and Nasdaq both ended Monday higher, while the Dow fell more than 200 points. More than 300 stocks in the broad-market index closed in the red in the previous session, adding to concerns about weak breadth and high levels of tech concentration — particularly after the number of S&P 500 stocks that gained last month was smaller than the amount that declined.

“Breath in the market has been pretty narrow for the last several months,” Saglimbene added. “If there is a slowing momentum or a near-term downturn in AI or tech, there really [aren’t] other areas that have performed as well, and if we don’t have a lot of clear data on the economy, and profitability across the rest of the S&P 500 isn’t as strong, where do you go?”

Stock market news for Nov. 4, 2025

Bitcoin Summer Erased By Autumn Bear Market

November 4, 2025 at 11:08 PM GMT

Bitcoin on Tuesday saw its summer rally wiped away as the cryptocurrency fell as much as 6.5% to $99,963, the first time the digital asset went below $100,000 since June. That’s down more than 20% off its record high only a month ago, a plunge that, were we talking about stocks, would be a bear market. Ether slipped as much as 9.6% and several so-called altcoins posted similar declines, bringing losses for many of the less easily traded and liquid tokens to more than 50% this year.

So why all the bad news for the funny money? The turning point came in mid-October, when a brutal wave of liquidations wiped out billions of dollars in bullish positions. Since then, traders have stayed on the sidelines. Open interest in Bitcoin futures remains far below pre-crash levels, and even with funding costs turning favorable, few are willing to re-enter. The result? Bitcoin is up less than 10% this year, lagging equities and once again falling short as a portfolio hedge.

As for stocks, tech shares were missing Monday’s good vibes, instead bearing the brunt of Tuesday’s selling as more worries that the market is a big fat bubble managed to penetrate. Here’s your markets wrap Jordan Parker Erb

Bitcoin Summer Erased By Autumn Chill: Evening Briefing Americas - Bloomberg

IBM cutting thousands of jobs in the fourth quarter

Published Tue, Nov 4 2025 3:13 PM EST Updated Tue, Nov 4 2025 3:25 PM EST

IBM said Tuesday that it will lay off a small percentage of its employees in the current quarter.

“In the fourth quarter we are executing an action that will impact a low single-digit percentage of our global workforce,” a spokesperson told CNBC. “While this may impact some U.S.-based roles, we anticipate that our U.S. employment will remain flat year over year.”

IBM employed 270,000 people at the end of 2024, according to its latest annual report. A 1% cut to headcount would represent the loss of 2,700 jobs.

Other technology companies have been slimming down lately, with executives looking for ways to improve productivity by increasing reliance on artificial intelligence tools.

In October, Amazon said that it would cut 14,000 corporate employees, while Facebook parent Meta said its AI unit would get rid of 600 workers.

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IBM layoffs: Cutting thousands of jobs in the fourth quarter

In UK AI news, infringe copyright in the “right” jurisdiction and import the infringement into GB Scot free. Must have made sense to M’Lud.

Court rejects Getty Images’ core claim in historic case against AI image generator

Tuesday 04 November 2025 11:23 am  |  Updated:  Tuesday 04 November 2025 11:44 am

The High Court dismissed Getty Images’ core intellectual property claims against an AI image generator, but also granted it limited historic success in a landmark UK lawsuit.

US giant Getty Images sued UK-based AI image generator Stability AI, alleging it unlawfully copied and processed millions of copyrighted images to train its image generation technology.

The case was centred around Stable Diffusion, a tool owned by Stability AI, which automatically generates images based on text or image prompts inputs.

Getty Images alleged that its intellectual property rights have been infringed by Stability’s tool, as it claims that its copyrighted images were used in the training of Stable Diffusion.

The case, which was at the High Court in June, saw Getty Images dropping one of its claims over primary copyright infringement, just two weeks into the trial.

The arguments that remained before Mrs Justice Joanna Smith was Getty Images’ secondary infringement claim, along with trademark infringement and passing off.

On Tuesday, the court handed down a 205-page ruling, the court ruled that Getty Images was successful in part of its trademark infringement claim, but this success was limited to older models and was based on isolated examples.

Legal sector reacts

However, the court dismissed Getty Images’ central claim of secondary copyright infringement under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988.

The court found that although an “article” may be an intangible object for the purposes of the Act, an AI model such as Stable Diffusion is not an “infringing copy”, such that there is no infringement under the Act.

The judge also dismissed its other copyright claims over primary copyright infringement, but this claim had already been abandoned by Getty during the trial.

Robert Guthrie, partner in the IP Disputes Practice at Osborne Clarke, stated: “This judgment is a big win for Stability AI and AI developers generally.”

“Although the judgment is a big win for Stability AI and AI developers generally, it is worth flagging that it did not decide whether the use of third party copyright protected works in the training or refinement of AI models infringes copyright in the UK, as Getty was unable to establish that any such training had taken place in the UK,” he added.

Rebecca Newman, legal director at law firm Addleshaw Goddard, said: “Despite the protection UK copyright purports to offer, Stability have got away with exploiting authorial works for their huge value in training model weights.

“The texture of the end product should be irrelevant, extracting value from protected works (reaping what has been sown) is an act reserved to the copyright owner.”

“Today’s finding means that copyright owners’ exclusive right to reap what they have sown has been avoided on a technicality. In practice, models trained on infringing data outside of the UK can be imported into the UK without legal repercussions,” she added.

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Court rejects Getty Images' core claim in historic case against AI image generator

In other news.

Trump administration says SNAP will be partially funded in November

Updated 10:34 PM GMT, November 3, 2025

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — President Donald Trump’s administration said Monday that it will partially fund SNAP for November, after two judges issued rulings requiring the government to keep the nation’s largest food aid program running.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture, which oversees the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, had planned to freeze payments starting Nov. 1 because it said it could no longer keep funding it during the federal government shutdown. The program serves about 1 in 8 Americans and is a major piece of the nation’s social safety net. It costs more than $8 billion per month nationally. The government says an emergency fund it will use has $4.65 billion — enough to cover about half the normal benefits.

Exhausting the fund potentially sets the stage for a similar situation in December if the shutdown isn’t resolved by then.

It’s not clear exactly how much beneficiaries will receive, nor how quickly they will see value show up on the debit cards they use to buy groceries. November payments have already been delayed for millions of people.

“The Trump Administration has the means to fund this program in full, and their decision not to will leave millions of Americans hungry and waiting even longer for relief as government takes the additional steps needed to partially fund this program,” Massachusetts Attorney General Andrea Joy Campbell, who led a coalition of Democratic state officials in one of the lawsuits that forced the funding, said in a statement.

The administration also provided an infusion to the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children, which helps low-income mothers buy nutritious staples. WIC received an additional $450 million in funding, according to a senior administration official who spoke Monday on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the decision publicly. POLITICO first reported on the funding Monday afternoon.

Last month, some states warned they only had enough money to operate their WIC programs until mid-November. The administration last month reallocated $300 million in unspent tariff revenue to keep the program running.

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Trump administration says SNAP will be partially funded | AP News

Global Inflation/Stagflation/Recession Watch.

Given our Magic Money Tree central banksters and our spendthrift politicians, inflation now needs an entire section of its own.

Bessent says high US interest rates may have caused housing recession

3 November 2025

(Reuters) -Parts of the U.S. economy, particularly housing, may already be in recession because of high interest rates, U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said Sunday, repeating his call for the Federal Reserve to accelerate rate cuts.

"I think that we are in good shape, but I think that there are sectors of the economy that are in recession," Bessent said on CNN's "State of the Union" program. "And the Fed has caused a lot of distributional problems with their policies."

Bessent said that, although the overall U.S. economy remains solid, high mortgage rates still hinder the real estate market. Housing, he said, is effectively in a recession that is hitting low-end consumers the hardest because they have debts, not assets.

Pending home sales in the United States were flat in September, according to the National Association of Realtors.

The treasury secretary characterized the overall economic environment as in a transition period.

Fed Chair Jerome Powell last week signaled that the central bank may not cut rates further at its December meeting, prompting sharp criticism from Bessent and other Trump administration officials.

Federal Reserve Governor Stephen Miran, who is on leave from his post as chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, said in an interview with the New York Times published on Saturday that the Fed risked inducing a recession if it did not swiftly lower interest rates.

Miran, who is due to return to his White House job in January, was one of two central bank governors who dissented from last week's Fed decision to lower interest rates by 25 basis points, arguing instead for a cut of 50 basis points, or 0.5 percentage point.

"If you keep policy this tight for a long period of time, then you run the risk that monetary policy itself is inducing a recession," Miran said in the New York Times interview, which was conducted on Friday. "I don't see a reason to run that risk if I'm not concerned about inflation on the upside."

Bessent echoed that view, saying that the Trump administration's cuts in government spending had helped to lower the deficit-to-gross-domestic-product ratio to 5.9% from 6.4%, which in turn should help lower inflation. The Fed can also help by continuing to bring down interest rates, he said.

"If we are contracting spending, then I would think inflation would be dropping. If inflation is dropping, then the Fed should be cutting rates," he said. 

Bessent says high US interest rates may have caused housing recession

‘Business continues to be severely depressed’: U.S. manufacturers blame tariffs.

Last Updated: Nov. 3, 2025 at 10:59 a.m. ET First Published: Nov. 3, 2025 at 10:24 a.m. ET

American manufacturing contracted for the eighth month in a row, a new survey showed, and there appeared to be no end in sight because of high tariffs imposed by the Trump administration.

A closely followed manufacturing index slipped to 48.7% in October from 49.1% in the prior month, the Institute for Supply Management said Monday. Any number below 50% signals contraction.

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‘Business continues to be severely depressed’: U.S. manufacturers blame tariffs. - MarketWatch

Covid-19 Corner

This section will continue only occasionally when something of interest occurs.

 

Technology Update.

With events happening fast in the development of solar power and graphene, among other things, I’ve added this section. Updates as they get reported.

The AI industry is running on FOMO

At least according to Big Tech’s latest earnings calls.

Nov 3, 2025, 5:06 PM GMT

For Big Tech, a penny invested in AI is a penny earned... Maybe. After an indeterminate amount of time. Investors hope.

On earnings calls last weekAmazon, Google, Microsoft, and Meta reported more than $350 billion this year on capital expendituresor longer-tail investments in a company’s future. All four told investors to expect the number to skyrocket even further next year: Microsoft said “higher,” Amazon an “increase,” Google a “significant increase,” and Meta “notably larger.”

That probably translates to more than $400 billion total for the four companies next year, according to Joe Fath, partner and head of growth at Eclipse VC.

The return on investments for these companies so far is opaque. Dedicated AI companies are burning through cash in the meantime: OpenAI reportedly hit $12 billion in annualized revenue this summer — while reportedly being on track to burn through $115 billion through 2029.

Tension over this mismatch, Fath said, is ratcheting up. There’s a “push and pull between those companies and investors,” he added. “Investors are saying, ‘Am I going to get a return on this spend?’” It’s one of the increasingly clear indicators that some parts of the AI industry are a bubble — but it doesn’t yet tell us what happens after it pops.

AI hype has remained extremely high for several years, and startup valuations have hit eye-popping numbers. OpenAI, for instance, is reportedly hoping for a $1 trillion IPO in 2026 or 2027 and planning to raise $60 billion or more.

But AI companies insist there’s still not enough money for chips, data centers, and other resources. In a Q&A with reporters at OpenAI’s annual DevDay event last month, executives repeatedly emphasized their concern over lack of compute to expand services like Sora’s video-generation AI and ChatGPT’s daily Pulse feature, and discussed the need to eventually turn a profit from such services. Amazon, Google, and Microsoft — which provide cloud services on a quickly growing scale — have “all called out being pretty capacity-constrained,” Molly Alter, a partner at Northzone VC, told The Verge.

If these claims are accurate, they indicate that simply coming up with good products won’t be enough to make AI companies profitable — because they can’t afford to scale those products to support a huge user base. Even if they’re exaggerated, the systems are incredibly costly to operate. OpenAI is still thought to be losing money on even the $200 monthly subscription tier of its ChatGPT service, thanks to the cost of running queries.

OpenAI’s rumored IPO is a perfect example of the conundrum, Alter added. The company wants to secure about 26 gigawatts of computing capacity for data centers (which translates to about $1.5 trillion at current costs, per Alter) — meaning that even with the company’s current revenue, an up to $100 billion investment from Nvidia, and other “circular deals,” Alter says she still hasn’t been able to understand how the company’s clear funding gap gets solved.

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The AI industry is running on FOMO | The Verge

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